![]() ![]() In the particular case of the NCR, I believe, the important detail is the western culture of the territories that Shady Sands has joined with to form the NCR (which has been said before and in the very first post).Īs the society grows, changes will obviously happen, but the deep cultural changes from F1 to F2 did surprise me. Ancient eastern cultures such as China have become "well developed" societies but they have not developed a completely western culture because of that. That is why I personally don't think their "complexity" is the final reason for their culture to turn so wester, or if you like, American-like. When I used the word "Indian" I meant the Indians from India, not the native Americans who are by an old mistake called indians. More over it also reflects the level of the development of the community both in infrastructure and it's general state, resembling the United States in it's time westward expansion, an appearance that is also present in FO:NV.Īlso, I don't really think that Shady Sands appearance matters that much in FO1 until FO2, where we get to see how much it's grown as a community (into a nation) and how it's changed.īy the way, a more apt title might be "What happened to Shady Sands?" And the answer would be "It was absorbed into the NCR, like countless other wasteland towns."Ĭlick to expand.But that is not what I mean with "Indian". It regularly has large cattle drives, it has a complicated form of government, it's own army, it's own spec ops division of that army (the Rangers), etc. specialized gates that block off sections of town from undesirables or risky elements. Shady Sands, a few generations later, is pretty much a city. It hardly interacts with other groups in the wasteland, only making small amounts of trade with caravans, probably exchanging food for medical supplies and ammunition. It's primary concerns are survival, and it's culture reflects that a small self sufficient town that doesn't really do anything other than try to survive. The simpler, tribal or 'native american indian' (which is what I meant and mean by indian because that's how I was raised), is present in shady sands because it's a smaller, simpler community. What exactly do you mean by western? Do you mean a more modern culture or a more "Old West" culture, ie, a sort of cowboy john wayne clint eastwood sort of thing? I'm saying that as it grows, it's going to change. I'm not saying that size of a community dictates what sort of culture it's going to have. Maybe we're all misundertanding each other here. I simply pointed out that it isn't that surprising that the culture of the American west is so evident in the NCR, albeit a little sarcastically but it was playful really, you talk to me like an idiot (and talk idiotically) and call me a troll? Yawn. ![]() Reading too much into small elements of Shady Sands, perhaps these other cultural traits simply faded away? Cultures do change over time. what about Junktown? A sheriff run western town, the Hub? These are all part of the NCR too. I really just don't get the puzzlement at why NCR displays western cultural traits, I only really saw it in Aradesh and a few other things. I'm not a troll, not entirely sure what that entails but if it's when you post nonsense trying to provoke people then no, because i'm an adult and I have better things to do and say. So obviously it is going to be multi-cultural, why would the culture of the entire NCR be based on a few elements of the settlers of Shady Sands?Īlso, I was saying that it is natural for the NCR to display many of the cultural traits of the American west, because it is the American west. The NCR did not just begin as Shady Sands either, Shady Sands is one town that becomes a state of the NCR. When the NCR expands over a larger geographical territory and assimilates other cultures into it, separating into states, it is a country. So nice attempt at being patronising but you just look stupid. As the ending credits of Fallout 1 say 'the basis of a new nation'. No, I meant nation- when a community come together and become one territory and share a government it is a nation. Jeus, pretty much didn't understand a thing I said really eh? ![]() Click to expand.'Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful? Or do you just take a lot of things for granted? Nothing about culture is "natural", especially because it's cultural ' ![]()
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